By CCN: Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao discussed the idea of potentially reorganizing the Bitcoin blockchain. In this vision, the 7,000 BTC recently stolen from the cryptocurrency exchange would be redistributed to miners in the form of fees.
A coordinated effort with miners, within a specific time frame, could theoretically make it possible to empty the balances of the Binance hackers.
The idea didn’t originate with Binance or Changpeng Zhao, and CZ wants to be clear on that. It started with Bitcoin Core contributor Jeremy Rubin:
Anyone who believes the Bitcoin blockchain should be rewritten to suit their purposes overestimates their importance. | Source: REUTERS / Darrin Zammit Lupi
The idea that Binance could reorganize the blockchain rests on the notion that it’s technically feasible, and that those with the mining equipment will be willing to cooperate with them. The idea of rewriting the blockchain to benefit one organization brings to mind the infamous DAO hack, in which Ethereum reorganized its chain to restore stolen balances.
A minority group of Ethereum miners and users decided that immutability was more important than a single participant in the economy, and Ethereum Classic emerged.People believe this would likely happen if Binance or any other exchange were to attempt a similar act with Bitcoin.
Generally, Bitcoiners operate on two fundamental ideas. First, their transactions are uncensorable. The second is that there is a predictable 21 million unit supply cap for Bitcoin.
The psychological damage that a “rollback” would have on the space cannot be understated.A minimal amount of people in the world actually own the hashpower to achieve a successful rollback.
CZ clarified that the goal of the theoretical reorganization wouldn’t be to get the money back to Binance but to get it away from the attackers.Ultimately he opened a Pandora’s box at a bad time for his exchange. As he said, the idea, briefly discussed as it was, is currently getting more attention on Twitter than the attack itself.
The most relevant aspect of such a move is that it would almost certainly shake investor faith in Bitcoin.
We could expect prices to plummet across the board. It’s unclear if money would stay in crypto at all, or if a move to protect one institution would break the entire system.We’ve learned one thing from this (non) episode.
Anyone who believes the Bitcoin blockchain should be rewritten to suit their purposes overestimates their importance.
A coordinated effort with miners, within a specific time frame, could theoretically make it possible to empty the balances of the Binance hackers.
BINANCE CEO: “IT WASN’T MY IDEA.”
The idea didn’t originate with Binance or Changpeng Zhao, and CZ wants to be clear on that. It started with Bitcoin Core contributor Jeremy Rubin:
204 people are talking about thisJames Prestwich also chimed in:Jeremy Rubin@JeremyRubin@cz_binance if you reveal your private keys for the hacked coins (or a subset of them) you can decentralized-ly at zero cost to you, coordinate a reorg to undo the theft.3215:25 PM - May 7, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy
Jack Knutson@JackKnutsonJr · 22hReplying to @JeremyRubin @cz_binancePaging @_prestwich. I would love to hear your thoughts!
18 people are talking about thisBitMEX Research pointed out that this idea had been floated before, in 2016, when Bitfinex was hacked to the tune of 120,000 BTC. The genesis of the concept posits that the financial rewards of reorganizing the chain to thwart the attackers were much higher than the incentives to maintain the blockchain as it was.
James Prestwich@_prestwich
Pretty much this. You can sign transactions bribing miners with the UTXOs that have been consumed. If miners reorg to that chain, the theft will be undone. You could even offer something like 20% of the value to miners
https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin/status/1125920452340117506 …Jeremy Rubin@JeremyRubinReplying to @JeremyRubinYou can even sign batches of txns with the old utxos paying miners with different locktimes to make it a permanent reward to unwind this hack.
Cheaper than losing all 7000286:05 PM - May 7, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy
“In this case, Bitfinex could promise to pay the miners, say, 25 BTC per block for however many blocks it takes to reorg out the theft transactions and replace them with a spend aggregating the funds off of BitGo and into cold storage. As long as this is less than a few thousand blocks, it makes economic sense for everyone involved, simply because of the enormous size of the theft. […] To be absolutely clear I hope that this doesn’t happen. If it does, I’m not sure what value proposition bitcoin would have left. Uncensorable, nonpolitical money is what bitcoin is about, and without that it is nothing. If this manages to go through, I hope the outrage pushes people to fight for more decentralization and fungibility at the protocol level. Otherwise I don’t know what future bitcoin would have.”
PLAYING WITH FIRE
Anyone who believes the Bitcoin blockchain should be rewritten to suit their purposes overestimates their importance. | Source: REUTERS / Darrin Zammit Lupi
The idea that Binance could reorganize the blockchain rests on the notion that it’s technically feasible, and that those with the mining equipment will be willing to cooperate with them. The idea of rewriting the blockchain to benefit one organization brings to mind the infamous DAO hack, in which Ethereum reorganized its chain to restore stolen balances.
A minority group of Ethereum miners and users decided that immutability was more important than a single participant in the economy, and Ethereum Classic emerged.People believe this would likely happen if Binance or any other exchange were to attempt a similar act with Bitcoin.
CZ Binance✔@cz_binance · 11h
It turns out the re-org discussion is hotter than the incident itself. And becoming a little twisted.
1. we did not initiate the idea. It came from a suggestion from Jeremy (quoted tweet)
2. we did discuss it. Many people seems to deem even that itself is wrong. I don't think
Jeremy Rubin@JeremyRubin@cz_binance if you reveal your private keys for the hacked coins (or a subset of them) you can decentralized-ly at zero cost to you, coordinate a reorg to undo the theft.
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D Divs@DDivs3Bitcoin community would never agree on reversing the chain for a hack. Don't we have a Bitcoin classic already
24:41 AM - May 8, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy
REWRITING BITCOIN WOULD OPEN A PANDORA’S BOX
Generally, Bitcoiners operate on two fundamental ideas. First, their transactions are uncensorable. The second is that there is a predictable 21 million unit supply cap for Bitcoin.
The psychological damage that a “rollback” would have on the space cannot be understated.A minimal amount of people in the world actually own the hashpower to achieve a successful rollback.
CZ clarified that the goal of the theoretical reorganization wouldn’t be to get the money back to Binance but to get it away from the attackers.Ultimately he opened a Pandora’s box at a bad time for his exchange. As he said, the idea, briefly discussed as it was, is currently getting more attention on Twitter than the attack itself.
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CZ Binance✔@cz_binance
It turns out the re-org discussion is hotter than the incident itself. And becoming a little twisted.
1. we did not initiate the idea. It came from a suggestion from Jeremy (quoted tweet)
2. we did discuss it. Many people seems to deem even that itself is wrong. I don't think
Jeremy Rubin@JeremyRubin@cz_binance if you reveal your private keys for the hacked coins (or a subset of them) you can decentralized-ly at zero cost to you, coordinate a reorg to undo the theft.9064:35 AM - May 8, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy
The most relevant aspect of such a move is that it would almost certainly shake investor faith in Bitcoin.
We could expect prices to plummet across the board. It’s unclear if money would stay in crypto at all, or if a move to protect one institution would break the entire system.We’ve learned one thing from this (non) episode.
Anyone who believes the Bitcoin blockchain should be rewritten to suit their purposes overestimates their importance.
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Francisco Gimeno - BC Analyst This past week has been probably one of the weirdest in the crypto currency planet, with the Binance theft and its consequences. Bitcoin prices, however, are up yet. So, we see Binance being clear, open and taking responsibility. Social media getting crazy. Binance trying to solve the issue. Twitter, Reddit, etc in flames. Pandora box was slightly open for a while.