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Nilay and David dig into the week's biggest story: the new Intel-powered Surface Pro. Kidding! They talk about DeepSeek, the out-of-nowhere AI company that sent both Silicon Valley and the stock market into uproar this week. Then, after the hosts debate what the real killer app for AI is — and whether we've even found one yet — we follow up on our question from last week about how people are actually using AI. We got so many good answers, and we talk through what to make of them all. Finally, in the lightning round, we talk about Brendan Carr being a dummy, the return of the Pebble, the continued rise of Bluesky and Threads, and Meta's $25 million check to Trump.

0:00 Intro
2:12 Why everyone is freaking out about DeepSeek
42:26 Vergecast Hotline - how our listeners are using AI
1:16:03 Lightning Round

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    Francisco Gimeno - BC Analyst Not even two weeks since DeepSeek came out from China and the waves it has caused in the industry continue to be huge, challenging established players and reshaping what is possible in AI. We are sure many of you are trying it and finding it very easy to us, with good results all around. The AI race is not over, and not in the hands of OpenAi anymore. DeepSeek (they say themselves) focus on scalability, accessibility and real world impact, and this is resonating with both developers and end users like you and us. But the important questions are yet without a clear answer. How is DeepSeek going to disrupt the dominance of the AI giants, like OpenAI and Google?, what all this mean for the future of AI innovation and competition? Is this a new era? Maybe next week something else even better is coming out. Amazing. Whether you’re an AI enthusiast, a tech professional, or simply curious about the future, DeepSeek’s story is one to watch. It’s a reminder that in the fast-paced world of technology, the next big thing can come from anywhere.